{"id":128914,"date":"2022-08-19T14:37:20","date_gmt":"2022-08-19T14:37:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fin2me.com\/?p=128914"},"modified":"2022-08-19T14:37:20","modified_gmt":"2022-08-19T14:37:20","slug":"fed-official-on-recession-talk-when-we-look-at-the-data-i-feel-relieved","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fin2me.com\/markets\/fed-official-on-recession-talk-when-we-look-at-the-data-i-feel-relieved\/","title":{"rendered":"Fed official on recession talk: When we look at the data, I feel relieved"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>A version of this story first appeared in CNN Business&#8217; Before the Bell newsletter. Not a subscriber? You can sign up\u00a0<\/em><em>right here<\/em><em>. You can listen to an audio version of the newsletter by clicking the same link.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><cite>New York (CNN Business)<\/cite>The bears and bulls are at it again.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Markets have seemingly recovered from a miserable downturn in mid-June that sent the <span>S&amp;P 500<\/span> <span>(<span>SPX<\/span>)<\/span> down more than 20%, but analysts and investors can&#8217;t tell whether it&#8217;s clear skies ahead or if they&#8217;re in the eye of the storm.\u00a0<br \/>\nThings are looking pretty good right about now. The 9.2%\u00a0return in the S&amp;P 500 last month marked its best July since the Great Depression.\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul><\/ul>\n<p>Jurrien Timmer of Fidelity Investments noted recently that 88% of all stocks in the index are currently sitting pretty above their 50-day moving average. &#8220;If this rally continues much further than it has so far, on a historical basis it will be hard to conclude that this is not a new bull market,&#8221; he wrote.\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul><\/ul>\n<p>Fears of a recession, 40-year high inflation rates, and historically aggressive rate hikes from the Fed painted a pretty dismal picture earlier this summer, and markets reacted accordingly. But thanks to a strong July jobs report and lower-than-expected inflation, there seems to be a growing belief that the worst may be over. Wall Street is getting greedy again.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Strategists and economists should have a healthy dose of humility right now. The market was pricing in a recession, but all these economic reports came out that said, &#8216;not so fast. Maybe there is a soft-landing potential,'&#8221; said Keith Lerner co-chief investment officer at Truist. &#8220;Now the market is pricing in optimism that we&#8217;re going to get through this. It&#8217;s in &#8216;party on&#8217; mode.&#8221;<br \/>\nThe minutes from July&#8217;s Federal Reserve meeting showed that central bank officials think that a soft landing is well within reach.\u00a0But the minutes also noted that the full effects of tightening policy have not yet been felt.\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul><\/ul>\n<p>In the last 50 years, only one bear market \u2014 which happens when stocks close down 20% or more from their most recent high \u2014 was not accompanied by a recession. That was the market crash of 1987.<br \/>\nThere have been 17 S&amp;P 500 bear markets (or near bear markets) between World War II and this current dip, and they had an average drop of nearly 30% and a duration of about a year, according to an analysis by LPL Research. We&#8217;re nowhere near those numbers. There&#8217;s been no recession and it&#8217;s only been two months. Empirically speaking, we should be bracing for more losses.<br \/>\nThen again, August tends to be a strange month for markets. People are on vacation, and low trading volume often leads to more volatility. September, meanwhile, is on average the weakest month of the year for markets. This could easily just be a bear market bounce. A little upward blip before another fall.\u00a0<br \/>\n&#8220;We view this as a bear market rally,&#8221; wrote Bank of America analysts in a note on Tuesday, adding that they&#8217;re pretty common and occur 1.5 times, on average, during bear markets.\u00a0<br \/>\nMorgan Stanley Wealth Management&#8217;s Lisa Shalett lays it out like this: &#8220;With another 75-basis-point hike in the fed funds rate, inflation metrics rolling over and recession indicators flashing red, both stocks and bonds have rallied on the prospect of a policy pivot. Mission accomplished? Not!&#8221;<\/p>\n<h3>Interest rate hikes aren&#8217;t ending anytime soon<\/h3>\n<p>Fed officials say there&#8217;s still a long way to go.\u00a0<br \/>\nSan Francisco Federal Reserve president Mary Daly told CNN&#8217;s Julia Chatterley on Thursday\u00a0that raising interest\u00a0rates by either half or three quarters of a percentage point in September would be a &#8220;reasonable&#8221; way to bring inflation down.<br \/>\nThe hikes would follow\u00a0back-to-back\u00a075-basis point increases by the Federal Reserve, intended to tackle white hot inflation, which remains near a 40-year high.<br \/>\nLast month&#8217;s Consumer Price Index, a key inflation measure, showed that rising prices took a bit of a breather. &#8220;There&#8217;s some relief, and I was really pleased to see that, but I don&#8217;t count on it,&#8221; Daly told CNN&#8217;s Julia Chatterley. &#8220;We have a lot of work to do at the Fed to bring us back to price stability.&#8221;<br \/>\nDaly doesn&#8217;t see the Fed easing interest rate hikes anytime soon. She predicts they&#8217;ll continue into at least 2023, but says that&#8217;s ultimately a good thing \u2014 even if Wall Street investors don&#8217;t agree.<br \/>\n&#8220;There is a lack of understanding in the markets, but consumers seem to understand,&#8221; she said. &#8220;They depend on the Fed to not introduce unnecessary volatility. The worst thing you can have as a business or a consumer is to have rates go rapidly up and then come down. &#8230; It just causes a lot of caution and uncertainty.&#8221;<br \/>\nA raise and hold strategy has historically paid off for the Fed, she said. The central bank is actively trying to warn against the idea of a &#8220;large hump shaped rate path, where we&#8217;ll ratchet up really rapidly this year and then cut aggressively next year.&#8221;<br \/>\nStill, the Federal Reserve must walk a tightrope between triggering a recession and raising interest rates, and fears of a severe economic downturn have been growing in recent months. Daly doesn&#8217;t see that happening.<br \/>\n&#8220;When we look at the data instead of the, you know, the worst case scenarios, I feel really relieved,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<h3>Something&#8217;s weird in the US housing market <\/h3>\n<p>Something strange is going on in the housing market.\u00a0<br \/>\nNew home sales dropped for the sixth month in a row in July, reports my CNN Business colleague Anna Bahney. At the same time, prices kept going up. The median home price was $403,800 in July, up 10.8% from a year ago.\u00a0<br \/>\n&#8220;We&#8217;re witnessing a housing recession in terms of declining home sales and\u00a0home building,&#8221; said Lawrence Yun, the National Association of Realtors chief economist. &#8220;However, it&#8217;s not a recession in home prices. Inventory remains tight and prices continue to rise nationally with nearly 40% of homes still commanding the full list price.&#8221;<br \/>\nAs my colleague Allison Morrow has written, there&#8217;s a few reasons for this situation, which has left neither buyers nor sellers happy. Mortgage rates are higher. Sellers are too greedy. And as Yun points out, supply is still a problem.\u00a0<br \/>\nAll that isn&#8217;t particularly helpful if you&#8217;re a renter, either. Prices there, too,\u00a0are surging higher.\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul><\/ul>\n<h3>Up next <\/h3>\n<p>Earnings from Deere and Foot Locker.<br \/>\nSource: <a href=\"https:\/\/edition.cnn.com\/2022\/08\/19\/investing\/premarket-stocks-trading\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Read Full Article<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A version of this story first appeared in CNN Business&#8217; Before the Bell newsletter. Not a subscriber? You can sign up\u00a0right here. 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